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		<title>By: purple rain</title>
		<link>http://writeside.net/blog/quaint-category-or-a-right-to-be/comment-page-1/#comment-13243</link>
		<dc:creator>purple rain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 06:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey payal, yes... i was glad to notice it&#039;s gone too!

yep, was at kanpur..i&#039;m the production In-charge...and i played the mother in the Mrinalini episode. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey payal, yes&#8230; i was glad to notice it&#8217;s gone too!</p>
<p>yep, was at kanpur..i&#8217;m the production In-charge&#8230;and i played the mother in the Mrinalini episode. <img src='http://writeside.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Payal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Payal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 14:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Purple Rain, and thanks for the voice of support. The ones who found the ad offensive are few and far between. Thankfully, it seems to be off air now, so maybe someone&#039;s brain got zapped back into life!

Were you in the performance at Kanpur? I&#039;m really bad with names, so no point asking that, but which parts did you play?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Purple Rain, and thanks for the voice of support. The ones who found the ad offensive are few and far between. Thankfully, it seems to be off air now, so maybe someone&#8217;s brain got zapped back into life!</p>
<p>Were you in the performance at Kanpur? I&#8217;m really bad with names, so no point asking that, but which parts did you play?</p>
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		<title>By: purple rain</title>
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		<dc:creator>purple rain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 08:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and i thought i was the only person who found that AD offensive! thank goodness there are others, i was beginning to think that most peopl eare dead in the brain for laughing at that. i don&#039;t think you&#039;re over analysing it at all. 

and i&#039;m glad you liked the performance in Kanpur. I&#039;m part of the group, so it always feels nice to see such that we&#039;re connecting :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and i thought i was the only person who found that AD offensive! thank goodness there are others, i was beginning to think that most peopl eare dead in the brain for laughing at that. i don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re over analysing it at all. </p>
<p>and i&#8217;m glad you liked the performance in Kanpur. I&#8217;m part of the group, so it always feels nice to see such that we&#8217;re connecting <img src='http://writeside.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Payal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Payal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Okay, I ended up deleting my earlier comment somehow, so here goes again, if I remember everything!)

Well, you&#039;re not the only &quot;someone&quot; who said that, but I wasn&#039;t taking names, but now you&#039;ve gone and ID-ed yourself! 

And yeah, I see your point about laughing at ourselves! And also about just laughing at what&#039;s funny. I mean, we laugh at Will and Grace, right? We don&#039;t call it homophobic? The ad is funny, I know that, and it&#039;s only the rigid stupidity in society that makes it so; just that the whole right/wrong aspect rankled.

Well, there are a lot of things to get hot and bothered about, and I have a few items on my list. Like I said, I rediscovered my activist/feminist streak recently. I know I can&#039;t change the world, I&#039;ll just deal with shifting a few pebbles ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Okay, I ended up deleting my earlier comment somehow, so here goes again, if I remember everything!)</p>
<p>Well, you&#8217;re not the only &#8220;someone&#8221; who said that, but I wasn&#8217;t taking names, but now you&#8217;ve gone and ID-ed yourself! </p>
<p>And yeah, I see your point about laughing at ourselves! And also about just laughing at what&#8217;s funny. I mean, we laugh at Will and Grace, right? We don&#8217;t call it homophobic? The ad is funny, I know that, and it&#8217;s only the rigid stupidity in society that makes it so; just that the whole right/wrong aspect rankled.</p>
<p>Well, there are a lot of things to get hot and bothered about, and I have a few items on my list. Like I said, I rediscovered my activist/feminist streak recently. I know I can&#8217;t change the world, I&#8217;ll just deal with shifting a few pebbles <img src='http://writeside.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Swapna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swapna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 09:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, finally the feed worked.

And while I know I was the the someone referred to in some of the instances above, and still think that the issue of homophobia needs to be tackled at other levels rather than at these, the point is valid - I think what you&#039;re trying to arrive at is how do you draw a line between the acceptable and not. Fair point - you can&#039;t suddenly switch from being wrong to being right by turning the regulator knob!

Though to be honest, the way I read that ad is, that we should laugh at ourselves for being guilty of such silliness - bit like how the British poke fun at themselves (although I&#039;ll probably be inviting the comment that the British wouldn&#039;t allow the ad to be screened).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, finally the feed worked.</p>
<p>And while I know I was the the someone referred to in some of the instances above, and still think that the issue of homophobia needs to be tackled at other levels rather than at these, the point is valid &#8211; I think what you&#8217;re trying to arrive at is how do you draw a line between the acceptable and not. Fair point &#8211; you can&#8217;t suddenly switch from being wrong to being right by turning the regulator knob!</p>
<p>Though to be honest, the way I read that ad is, that we should laugh at ourselves for being guilty of such silliness &#8211; bit like how the British poke fun at themselves (although I&#8217;ll probably be inviting the comment that the British wouldn&#8217;t allow the ad to be screened).</p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 07:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair, it can be hard to know what will offend. I mean, I know I&#039;ve probably offended people and been too stupid to realize, simply because I&#039;m not a part of their world. In reality, you can&#039;t assume everyone knows what is politically correct to say or do, just because it seems obvious to you.

The answer, of course, would be to not do anything that could be considered offensive. However, since chances are someone will find something to be offended about, that would lead to a rather boring world. It&#039;s a tricky balance, to be sure, and I think Virgin dropped the ball here, but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s an easy ball to handle at any rate.

I&#039;m going to have to side with Niklas on the publicity front: there might be people who won&#039;t go with Virgin because of such ads, but there are a whole lot of people who will because it&#039;s &quot;funny&quot; and entertaining. The more press they get, the more chances of getting a new customer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair, it can be hard to know what will offend. I mean, I know I&#8217;ve probably offended people and been too stupid to realize, simply because I&#8217;m not a part of their world. In reality, you can&#8217;t assume everyone knows what is politically correct to say or do, just because it seems obvious to you.</p>
<p>The answer, of course, would be to not do anything that could be considered offensive. However, since chances are someone will find something to be offended about, that would lead to a rather boring world. It&#8217;s a tricky balance, to be sure, and I think Virgin dropped the ball here, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s an easy ball to handle at any rate.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to have to side with Niklas on the publicity front: there might be people who won&#8217;t go with Virgin because of such ads, but there are a whole lot of people who will because it&#8217;s &#8220;funny&#8221; and entertaining. The more press they get, the more chances of getting a new customer.</p>
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		<title>By: Payal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Payal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 05:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, that&#039;s the part I find sad &#8212; that they probably didn&#039;t mean to offend, and couldn&#039;t see why it could or should offend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that&#8217;s the part I find sad &mdash; that they probably didn&#8217;t mean to offend, and couldn&#8217;t see why it could or should offend.</p>
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		<title>By: Kat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 01:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Niklas Nik: *fightfight!* ;) I know you weren&#039;t really complaining about hearing Bug&#039;s complaint, but it reminded me of people who aren&#039;t thinking things out and instead just get annoyed. I think people like to get angry at the squeaky wheel unless that wheel is themselves. But a lot of times they get all caught up in being annoyed, and they don&#039;t look at whether or not the other person has a point. I know I have been guilty of that. 

There is such a thing as bad publicity if people decide not to buy from them anymore because of it! 

@Buggly: I don&#039;t think asking companies not to be discriminatory is too much to ask. I&#039;m with Marie in questioning whether they really meant to offend, but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s too hard to just try to imagine how things might effect the people they are making the slurs against. Is it truly advantageous to isolate a portion of their potential market just to make some people giggle? I&#039;m sure they could think of some other &quot;funny&quot; ways of getting attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Niklas Nik: *fightfight!* <img src='http://writeside.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  I know you weren&#8217;t really complaining about hearing Bug&#8217;s complaint, but it reminded me of people who aren&#8217;t thinking things out and instead just get annoyed. I think people like to get angry at the squeaky wheel unless that wheel is themselves. But a lot of times they get all caught up in being annoyed, and they don&#8217;t look at whether or not the other person has a point. I know I have been guilty of that. </p>
<p>There is such a thing as bad publicity if people decide not to buy from them anymore because of it! </p>
<p>@Buggly: I don&#8217;t think asking companies not to be discriminatory is too much to ask. I&#8217;m with Marie in questioning whether they really meant to offend, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s too hard to just try to imagine how things might effect the people they are making the slurs against. Is it truly advantageous to isolate a portion of their potential market just to make some people giggle? I&#8217;m sure they could think of some other &#8220;funny&#8221; ways of getting attention.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 14:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I admit that I found the Virgin Mobile ad funny too. However, this does not take away from the fact that the media and market are using homophobia to sell their product. That they have to be made aware of their social responsibility - not just vis-a-vis sexuality, but also gender, caste and what have you - is stating the obvious, and any efforts towards doing so must be encouraged and appreciated.

&quot;Taking things too seriously&quot; or &quot;being opinionated&quot; are considered to be phrases that have negative connotations, especially among the middle classes. And when it comes to women, these phrases acquire a larger dimension which cuts across class, caste and race. To jolt this segment of society (the middle classes)out of its reverie has always been and will continue to be an uphill task for a long time to come.  :smile:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I admit that I found the Virgin Mobile ad funny too. However, this does not take away from the fact that the media and market are using homophobia to sell their product. That they have to be made aware of their social responsibility &#8211; not just vis-a-vis sexuality, but also gender, caste and what have you &#8211; is stating the obvious, and any efforts towards doing so must be encouraged and appreciated.</p>
<p>&#8220;Taking things too seriously&#8221; or &#8220;being opinionated&#8221; are considered to be phrases that have negative connotations, especially among the middle classes. And when it comes to women, these phrases acquire a larger dimension which cuts across class, caste and race. To jolt this segment of society (the middle classes)out of its reverie has always been and will continue to be an uphill task for a long time to come.  <img src='http://writeside.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':smile:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Niklas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niklas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 08:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Niklas have actually had advanced thoughts lately about a similar subject! :O It is true. He has wondered if there can ever be a standard that defines how much one should respect other people.

Too much might be bad because then to do something, you&#039;d have to ok it with everyone in the whole world... And too little might make everyone in the whole world upset at you. Niklas could not come to a clever conclution though because he was busy watching anime. He&#039;ll have to get back on that later... he might throw in world peace and a cure for aids  while he&#039;s at it.

Anyhow, I fear the comercial was a succes with Buggling, as long as you spelled the name of the company right. No publicity is bad publicity *pets*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Niklas have actually had advanced thoughts lately about a similar subject! :O It is true. He has wondered if there can ever be a standard that defines how much one should respect other people.</p>
<p>Too much might be bad because then to do something, you&#8217;d have to ok it with everyone in the whole world&#8230; And too little might make everyone in the whole world upset at you. Niklas could not come to a clever conclution though because he was busy watching anime. He&#8217;ll have to get back on that later&#8230; he might throw in world peace and a cure for aids  while he&#8217;s at it.</p>
<p>Anyhow, I fear the comercial was a succes with Buggling, as long as you spelled the name of the company right. No publicity is bad publicity *pets*</p>
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